I wonder. Do we really need the speed humps in Wildern Lane. Some of them are really fierce, too fierce, suspension and spoiler smashing. Leave the 20 mph speed limit if you must, because of the schools, but remove the humps. There are other ways of enforcing the speed restrictions, which will also apply to buses, dustcarts, vans and the big 4x4's that many parents use to take their kids to school. The humps currently only seem to affect a proportion of the vehicles passing up and down that road and if you stand on the pavement and watch for a while, you'll see that those vehicles that aren't particualrly affected by the humps aren't completely innocent from infringing the speed limit either...
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Could I also add to get the pointless table ramp (Front of Ratcliffe Rd) removed as all it seems to do is shake the ground when buses and other heavy vehicles drive over it at speed, I’m not particularly sure what it is supposed to do, it helps in no way to reduce the speed in Wildern lane... remove it!
I totally agree that the speed limit is 20mph. surely something can be done to get traffic to slow down, when 2 buses pass in the road they almost touch. And when you walk on the path, the buses almost suck you into the road!
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Indeed! The simple fact is that large vehicles such as 4x4's and larger vans seem unafected by the speed humps. I have heard and know of one particular case were over £400 pounds worth of repairs had to be carried out due to broken suspension components that needed to be replaced. Perhaps a road calming scheme would be more appropriet?
By torypaul2010 at 18:26 on 01/05/10
ReportHaving travelled on a Bluestar Bus along Wildern Lane on several occasions I can vouch for the fact that the humps do nothing to slow busses down. Keep the 20 limit and humps by the school but remove the rest as they are a waste of time. Less humps outside the school alone will have more impact than a road full of them that drivers just get fed up with and ignore.
Totally agree caxm25. I don't see the point in having humps all the way from start to finish of Wildern Lane, also, most drivers seem to get frustrated by them half way along and speed up inbetween them anyway!
By torypaul2010 at 18:40 on 01/05/10
ReportI have to disagree with you. I do agree that larger vehicles, inc buses (often the worse offenders) do seem oblivious to the humps, however people to go too fast down Wildern lane. The larger vehicles also tilt over the pavement, indeed I have on several occaisions pulled my daughter away from a passing wing mirror or two. They do slow down smaller cars and I think as far as larger cars go , the only way we will ever slow them down is if there's a smaller car ahead of them. As a driver of a smaller car when I comply with the 20 mph limit (which by the way is not law but advisory according to the local police) I have no probs with the bumps. I am of course not a boy racer with lowered suspension. In my opinion the human race should in general slow down a bit, chillax, look around them more and enjoy the world we have more instead of rushing to be somewhere else....wasn't it the Buddists that said 'its all about the journey....not just the destination'.
Another thing to consider is the emergency services, ambulance drivers in particular hate the humps, when they have to transport sick or injured people to A&E time and a stable vehicle can be the difference between life and death.
By torypaul2010 at 18:56 on 01/05/10
ReportI think in general people do drive too fast. Kings Copse Avenue being the worst hit. But if the speed humps in Wildern Lane are not doing any good - and it's clear that it's not from the speed of most of the traffic - then surely that is a sign to come up with another idea.
Yes cazm25, i'm not sure what though, we need a brain storming session on what would be better for everyone, i will do some research.
By torypaul2010 at 19:25 on 01/05/10
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Variable speed limits are the answer. We can justify the 20mph limit when the school run's are happening, but during the rest of the day Wildern lane could safely take the usual 30mph. But I suspect that might require some help from Westminster. The only variable speed limits I know of are on the M25...
The other option perhaps, is to use the system that is adopted up the road in Bitterne, where right turns are banned at certain junctions at certain times of the day. Wildern lane could effectively become a one-way route during the school run...
The problem with making it more than 20 is that the traffic will then increase to 40. Its hard enough at times to get out the drive way when the traffic is storming down the road at 30/35.
This doesn't account for the disrespectful drivers who like to race down the road at speeds of at least 60 on an evening, you can hear the cars storming up the road long before they get to our house....supprised the police cant hear them from St Johns road.
I'd also like to mention the little terrors who ride their little motorbikes everyday up the road like there a law unto their own!! Must say im suprised none of them have crashed into anyone...or nothing (a "moving pavement"), their riding is horrendous!
That's probably because the Police station is shut when the boy racers and kamikaze motorcyclists are out RDWL1...!
Have to agree with you though, that if the speed limit were raised to 30, the traffic would tend to flow faster than that.
On the other hand, we don't want to return to the bad old days of a century ago, when motorists had to be be proceeded by a pedestrian waving a red flag...
I asked the police about the best way to enforce speed limits in Wildern Lane when I was a Governor at one of the schools there. We discussed speed cameras, variable speed limits, calming measures but at the end of the day speed bumps were the solution. I understand the emergency service angle, both as a citizen and as an Emergency Nurse myself, however wildern lane would only be used for those emergecies ON Wildern Lane itself. AT the end of the day its all about risk management, i.e. impact vs probability. So how much time are the speed bumps really going to delay emergency services, given that we have already agreed that they don't really slow down large vehicles anyway.....not much I would suggest. Of course if you take the worst case scenario of someone dying because of the delay that would have a huge IMPACT, but the PROBABILITY of that occurring must be in the realms of hundreds of thousands to one. Also, from a medical point of view, if a delay in say 1 minute caused someones death then sorry to say their chances of survival were probably virtually zero anyway. Compare that with the risk of removing the bumps and thus allowing traffic to speed along Wildern lane. Again, if a child is killed the IMPACT would be huge, but in this case I would guesstimate that the PROBABILITY of it occurring would be in the thousand to one region. So from a risk management point of view it would be better to keep the bumps.
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